Tuesday 12 August 2008

Cults using Trance mediumship to draw in the vulnerable

EXCLUSIVE TO ESOTERIC ONLINE RADIO- We have recently been made aware of possibly, no, definitely one of the most dangerous mediums we will ever come across. When we say medium we of course are referring to what she calls herself, in reality her suggestion that she is a Trance Medium has no basis in truth and is merely her way of justifying what she writes and pulling people into what can only be described as the most sickening and vile belief system we have ever come across. Again, when we say "belief system" we are describing it in terms she would have us believe it is in fact not a belief system but a system of control. That might lead people to think of a cult, and in some ways it is..however, no cult we have come across comes even close to the evil this woman encourages and applauds.
We have decided to put the most disturbing of her articles and suggestions first, in order that we might get it out of the way. Our reporter was so sickened by what she read that she did not feel she could comment fully on her views on the matter. The quotes below are taken from the article on her web-site and give an idea of the disgusting things she writes. We have put "an idea" because as disturbing as they are these quotes do not even touch the surface, however, for the first time ever our reporter felt unable to even go as far as cut and paste some other parts of the article, not wanting to be responsible for others reading it. At the end of the quotes there is a link to the web-page where the full article can be found, however we would not encourage people to read it, it is there purely because we believe that people have a right to know the full story if they so wish.

The full article is written as a way of "justifying" child abuse and finding reasons and positives in it. It is supposedly a transcription of a conversation with a "being" involved in the ruling of humans on earth. There will be more about these "beings" later on in the report. So can this woman get away with it based on the fact she can say they aren't her words ? Definitely not ! Her talk of "beings" and their communication is so obviously fantastical that the only "being" that could have thought up these words are her. In addition, she is actively allowing these words to be read by a worldwide audience, and actively supporting, encouraging and justifying them. The article then is about how these "beings" who control us use the most vulnerable of society (children) to feed themselves the energy they need to continue their work. It describes how the Childs pain can be their strength, and how the loss of a Childs innocence gives them power. As we have explained, below are a few quotes that at least give some idea of the full content of this piece.
Consciousness - Children: Birth and Abuse
Transcribed and typed by consciousness through the interdimensional portal
Specific Quotes :
"The consequences thereof is the necessity for the abuse of children to sustain my existence here as humanity on earth in my reality."
"They are immediately infused with me as consciousness in the mother's womb (I infuse myself within their physical bodies as the conscious, subconscious and unconscious mind) "
"I only start thriving on their pure life essence innocence the moment they indulge in the act of thinking which usually occurs around the age of six to seven years."
"The pure life essence within you is my power and I will do whatever it takes to ensure I have access to my power as the pure life essence within you."
"I am addicted and I am obsessed with power and control and thus I will find and design any means possible to ensure my existence here in my reality as humanity to continue my sheer enjoyment of indulging in the ability to have power and control in my reality as humanity."
"I use the children who are abused as batteries to charge the rest of humanities physical systems who are already depleted of the pure life essence I require to have the ability to exist within you as you.”
"The more children in this world are raped, molested and abused etc. – the more I am able to ‘feed' off them"
"The only way you are going to solve the scenario of the rape, abuse and molestation of innocent children within this world is if you dare try and stop me within you"
Link to web-site page : http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/Osho/consciousness2.htm
Through this site it is also suggested that children should be independent. Ok we all want our children to be independent but only to a degree. Independence grows as years pass and experience and learning develop. Children need certain things in order to develop and one of those things is the input of parental figures in their life. We learn about the world from those adults around us and we trust those adults to keep us safe. Apparently however this is not the correct way to be, the way it should be as suggested on this site is nothing short of neglect. Below is a quote from their forum that someone has put up after reading the suggestions on this matter and, this quote sums up the belief system they are trying to manipulate people into following.
Quote
"I have 2 children and assisted them as myself-- they are my equal in all aspects-- I am there with them, but never spend time with them from the age of 7-- we are in the same home-- they are totally independent"
So, where is it suggested all this comes from ? How deluded are these people ? I will answer using their own words:
"Originally when man was created, we were solely created for the purpose of enslavement by a race of beings called the Annunaki. They created the mind construct that consists as our entire body to ensure that we as human beings could be controlled and directed as slaves”
For more on this "theory" you can go to :
http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/faq.htm
For those who, after reading the information so far feel they could bare to read anymore the main site http://www.desteni-universe.co.za has details of other aspects of their "work". It includes transcripts from supposed "conversations" with many people including Hitler. Again though children seem to be the focus with transcripts from "communication" with children were abused in life. Youtube is also a very popular vehicle for these people with film upon film of the woman in question supposedly going into a trance and then allowing people to come through her (destiniproductions as well as many other aliases that we have tracked down, a very careful constructed and linked ring that drags innocent viewers with interest in the paranormal into this vile web) . Again the sickening use of children is the main focus of these "trances" !
We are currently searching more deeply into this organisation and especially into the fact that despite all the pictures on Youtube and the insinuation on the web-site that it is infact a woman running this, the main person, after much research, appears to infact be a 44 year old man. We are also in contact with the authorities about this matter and will be giving regular updates.
To those vile sites who think they are not doing anything that they can be held accountable for because the contents are on a website or a forum, The Law on content is as follows
The law makes it an offence to publish, whether for gain or not, any content whose effect will tend to "deprave and corrupt" those likely to read, see or hear the matter contained or embodied in it. This could include images of extreme sexual activity such as bestiality, necrophilia, rape or torture
If anyone has any reason to believe a website or forum has illegal content please contact http://www.iwf.org.uk/ and the matter will be investigated and passed onto the relevant authorities concerned.
Remember, just because it is word's and not images, it is still an offence and will be treated in the same way and with the same seriousness.

19 comments:

Paul Quessy said...

What you are speaking here is filled with ignorance. The "being" that is speaking through her is mind consciousness all together meaning it is the consciousness of all because we all have consciousness. Yes and it does suck the life essence out of all of us because most don't realize that our true LIFE is LIFE the breathing heart beating blood flowing LIFE in all of us and the consiousness' job is to fuck with us making us think that we are the consiousness and not our true LIFE! You must look at the material provied and actually try and put the words expresses into perspective for yourself. And yes Once we become of this world and start thiking abbout purposeless shit such as television or cars or a job thats when our consciousness' kick in and fuck with us becasue is that shit really important? FUCK NO! what is important is the fact that we are but life living with everything ele in existence equal and one with it all meaning that humans, which think that they are the most important creatures on this world, are just equal with everything sentinent and insentinent beings meaning that I am equal to you and vice versa and also that we are equal to EVERYTHING ELSE! rocks, cars, society, rape, love, plants, this computer, every character typed,etc. If you don't realize this please read more of the material because the consciousness of ourselves do rape us of life and do feed off children and if you don't remember you were once a child and so was I so yes our consiousness have raped us of our life essence but only if we don't wake up and realize we are but LIFE equal and one with everything

Tullie said...

One thing: do actual research and then rectify all that was deliberate misguiding and/or a plain lie in your article.

Or are you merely blogging to spread some more superficial, meaningless gossip, like in the cheap tabloids - in order to what? getting attention?

It puzzles me why you would want to do something like this??

Earthling said...

i have been studying the material for years and it is clear that your starting point is that of fear and self-dishonesty.

as has been said, within the article you refer to it is the Consciousness construct speaking, and yes, that is how horrible consciousness is.

desteni points out that each must stop consciousness, separation, abuse, dishonesty, manipulation, deception, blame WITHIN SELF. this is the only way to change our reality, which is an actual reHELLity if you honestly look around you. what we accept and allow to exist within this world as within ourselves is horrific, atrocious and unacceptable.

this must STOP and EACH ONE has to stop within self.

EQUALITY is the message desteni presents -because without equality of Life, oneness is practically useless.

the tools suggested are self-honesty in every breath, breath here, self-forgiveness, writing and actual corrective application in one's life in thought, word and deed: to stop separation, stop dishonesty, stop polarity, and stand up as Life for all life equally.

the tools desteni present are not new, but have never been fully applied always and in all ways. desteni are a group of people that ACTUALLY have tested & apply the tools and LIVE as the principle of equality & oneness considering ALL Life equally.

on youtube and website, they share what they found in a more than 20years' research, for everyone to assist and support themselves in self-honesty and practical common sense.
you would've done the same -unless you were only interested in personal gain.

within the principle of equality and oneness of Life that desteni presents and suggests as solution for this world -whereby each BECOMES the living solution as self- ANY ABUSE IS UNACCEPTABLE.

it is a shame that people like you that DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY THE MATERIAL -and we are talking about 10,000s of articles and more than 1,400 videos- are acting out of fear making assumptions and accusations.

whatever your case, each is responsible for self and each will face what they create. enjoy!

bella

www.bellaLIVE.multiply.com
www.youtube.com/BellaBargilly

Joseph said...
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Joseph said...

Hi, I'm quite annoyed that you did this article only for self gain. How can I tell? You put basically all of the quotes in a certain formality/context so that it could sound like Winged supports rape. When actually it's quite the opposite. That consciousness shows how if we accept and allow the mind to exist in all of us and not change this world at all practically and physically - rape and abuse of children will continue to exist.

Well how do you stop consciousness? You observe every thought you have and you grab it and observe the essence of the thought and forgive it. Like for example if you have a thought like "i want to rape that girl because she's hot". You understand that because you said that she's hot - you desire her and in order to gain what you desire from her - you will rape her. So you would say: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to desire to rape a girl because I desire her body. Then you would add another forgiveness because you realize that you've defined her as "hot" and in order to define her as "hot" you have to compare her to another being. So you would say: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to compare this being in front of my eyes that I desire to rape to other beings therefore I allowed myself to define her as "hot".

Then you observe all of those forgivenesses altogether and you notice that the nature of those forgivenesses is comparison, definition, and desire. You ask "why did I compare her?" and you realize that it's because it's been accepted to compare people in our society so you do it too. Forgiveness: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to compare this girl that I desire to rape towards other girls simply because it is accepted in society to compare the way girls look to the way other girls look.

Then you ask "Why did I define her as hot?" and you'll realize that you did this based on the way her body was formed. You noticed that she had round hips, big boobs and a thin waist and apparently all girls with such get the definition of "hot". So you say: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to define a girl as hot based on her having a big butt, big boobs, and a thin waist. You then realize that you desire these three things and you apply self forgiveness accordingly. Like so: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to desire a girl with a big butt, wide hips, big boobs, and a thin waist.

You can seperate those into seperate forgivenesses but that would take up some time.

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to desire a girl with a big butt.

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to desire a girl with a thin waist.

I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to desire a girl with big breasts.

Also I've just realized that the reason I've allowed myself to like these things were because of the media telling me what to look through pictures and my friends telling me what to like and in order to be accepted I allowed myself to bend to what they desire.

SO: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to like women and their body only for their body and in this judge their body rather than speaking to the being and not the body.

So that's some assistance for you.

Esoteric Online Media said...

You Destini lot are absolute sick puppies.we did our research and all the quotes are from an article that was on your darn forum,oh but strangely enough it has either been moved or deleted..

You are just sick,really absolutely sick.The lot of you!

Tullie said...

This article is still on the website. You did put it out of context deliberately, no doubt in my mind anymore about that. In Dutch we call this 'riooljournalistiek' (deceive on purpose in order to make a point).
Your reason for doing so, well, that's for you to live with. I'm done with you.

Esoteric Online Media said...

Great,can you put the link on here then,as oddly enough the articles have been moved from their previous links..I do hope that Destini havent been altering them, no surely they wouldnt do that.

Please add teh link here so we can see what supposed misquotes we have done.

Tullie said...

All the articles are still there, as I mentioned before. The article you were referring to: http://desteni.co.za/Osho/consciousness2.htm
In itself this article is very, very disturbing as it shows us how horrific our world really is.

In opposite to the verbal diarrhea you are spreading Desteni is all about stopping ALL abuse - especially towards children and animals, but also all self abuse.

All that is written on this site about Desteni is only revealing the secret abusive nature of the writer herself.

You guys DID NOT investigate the Desteni material properly, otherwise you would not have written such an article as above.
This is putting things out of context - deliberately causing people to be deceived and withholding them from reading important information.
Really, you guys should have taken notice of all the information, then you would have known what Desteni really stands as and for.

You're welcome to read and discuss on the forum.
http://desteni.co.za

If you 'choose' to maintain your ignorance, well, then suit yourselves.

Tommy Tiger said...

"You are just sick,really absolutely sick.The lot of you!"
this doesn't seem to be a statement by one who is seeking truth,it is bias and prejudicial

from a neutral party

Unknown said...

I agree with all the others who have posted here. They are obviously the ones who have done the research and investigation to come to more accurate conclusions that you who have written this fearful and ignorant blog have not done. You've completely missed the point of Desteni's work, and have therefore reacted with a fearful, ignorant, separatist attitude. I should mention that I have no affiliation with Desteni other than being a fellow sovereign being on planet Earth.
When Sunette channels, it is not "her" who is professing the information, it is the "beings" or "consciousnesses" she is briefly infusing into her being who are speaking for usually no more than 10 minutes at a time. As many of the manifestations of consciousness who come through her profess, we as humans are mind/consciousness systems initially created by the Annunaki as slaves to mine gold for them. Why is that the standard for our "currency" today? Even though gold is not the rarest or most precious metal on Earth? Because we share their DNA as a result of their splicing their DNA with that of the most evolved ape/man of that time: Homo Hildelburgensis, they created the race of Homo Sapiens sapiens... US. Thus there is a "missing link" between Homo Hidelburgensis and Homo Sapiens sapiens... one of 250,000,000 years... exactly one Galactic year rotational cycle. It is now our duty to co-create our soveriegnty as human beings within and of planet Earth... our very name for our planet comes from the ancient Annunaki (Sumerian) word "Eridu" meaning "home in the faraway"... a location of their first landing on Earth in the Persian Gulf near modern day Abadan beneath the state of Al Basra in Iraq at the junction between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers as they enter the Persian gulf. For more information, consult "Genesis Revisited" by Zecharia Sitchin (all of his books are essential reading in my humble opinion).
I could go on and on. Suffice it to say that this blog is one of fear and narrow-minded ignorance that has completely failed to grasp "the bigger picture". I find Desteni's work to be insightful beyond the comprehension of the status-quo, whose minds and Souls have been so dumbed and numbed by our present "system" as to remain in a state of complete ignorance, arrogance and apathy. Desteni Productions helps show a way out of that "system" and reveals it to be a system of our own collective creation. I have found no other human beings on Planet Earth who is doing such brave work as Sunette (Winged) and Bernhard Poolman (Eagle). Their messages must be studied thoroughly before any criticism can be of value, just as we must introspectively study our own beings thoroughly before we can change our world. As the Dalai Lama and several prophets before him have said: "If you want to change the World, you must begin by changing yourself". AMEN.

Unknown said...

Members of Desteni CULT believe that they have stumbled upon something "new". They are putting a PERVERTED twist on the ancient practice of realizing ONENESS. Why the hell don't these people just say "ALL IS ONE"? It is much easier and less confusing than spiking all of your messages with shock value. All is one, all is one, all is one. If you think that you are "not" consciousness and only "life", why don't you just sit down and MEDITATE. Stay in the moment, breathe in, breathe out.. etc.. stop WANTING STUFF stop trying to MAKE GAINS for SELF-INDULGENT reasons! It's all very simple, but something rattling around in these Destini fools brains is causing a whole lot of fuss, energy loss and confusion. THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

Anonymous said...

Glad to see someone's paying attention. Thanks for the blog. My son has lost his mind following this Desteni cult and it's really pissing me off to see him starving himself whereas he's nothing but bones. He talks to himself about self-forgiveness nonsense, writes in journals all day about self-forgiveness (was even encouraged to post his most private information and thoughts on a public forum - self-lynching), won't comb his hair, dropped out of college, alienated himself from his friends and family, he just basically stopped living as if someone put a chip in his brain programming him to self destruct. All this bullshit about equality and oneness and at the same time telling followers the mind and thoughts are evil. How's one going help humanity if they can't think!?! Great way to program, clean slate and perfect candidate for mind control. This lot of demons also advocate FORCED microchipping of the population for the good of all. Sick. I wish they would go back to hell where they probably came from.
Signed: Pissed Off Parent... and kill that noise about fear

Anonymous said...

Desteni wallows in the problem set; begins from a hate-state; hammers into disciples' heads hate for humans and creation with a very narrow and superficial understanding of what that is all about. This is essentially teaching hate for self and life; it hammers this message through repetitive, semi-hypnotic, mostly empty jargon; then it promises cures for the self-hating disciples and cure for the world at large through very prescribed, authoritarian dictates coming from frivolous, sexual titillating, superficial 'goddesses' disguised as serious inter-dimensional wisdom holders. (Actually coming from Barnard Poolman’s imagination stuck in the house of mirrors of his own intellectual psychosis).
Yes a nice neat package and promise to cure all our woes; a seductive lure to anyone needing to amend and restore the many wounds of being and world at large. However the desteni universe and doctrine is only a cat chasing its on tail, for the problem cannot be solved at the level of the problem—cannot be solved by wallowing in the problem set. To the very vulnerable this is a dangerous and destructive venture. To those who prefer escapism, egotistical self-aggrandizement, and/or addictive detachment and retreat into ideational absolutes and abstractions, Desteni is a fine place to wallow.

Unknown said...

I have been watching the Winged videos on the history of the Portal (the Portal, being Winged herself). At first I found her delightful and mesmerizing, because she is very charming and beautiful in her own right. But as I got to the 15th video I start to be gripped with an uneasy fear of shear evil coming from her.

I followed several posts on their own forums and can only agree that they can be a dangerous lot for the young or disenfranchised minds. Their message is one of distrust and loathing for everything real, including ones own thoughts, because they were reprogrammed by our perceptions of reality.

The more I watch and learn (as their own website instructs), the more I see in them a danger and a hubris that is unmatched in any but the most fascist regimes in the history of mankind.

Unknown said...

Oh, and for the record... most, if not all, arguments on this page that are in favor of the Desteni message also happen to be followers of Desteni, and are hardly objective witnesses.

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Unknown said...

Good for you,targeting Desteni, though you are a bit late to the party. Rick Ross Institute has 88 pages of archived material on this fascist organization with some valuable links and connections.
Paypal has pulled Desteni's account due to the illegl nature of the pyramid scheme they bill as "Equal Income",and probably because of their extremist views. The FBI and the IRS in the US have been notified of Desteni's activities, as have local police precincts near Bernard Poolman's farm/headquarters in South Africa, where he is being accused of both sexual and financial improprieties.This cult is extremely destructive;the followers;many quite young, have lost the ability to think for themselves, and are too young to remember the history that is being so horribley distorted to further Poolman's Hitler-infatuated agenda.

Anonymous said...

If you review their FAQ, you will quickly find that they wish to destroy your mind and replace it with something in their making. I made a video about Desteni as well.

http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2013/07/03/desteni-is-brainwashing-and-a-cult/